Tuesday, October 28, 2008

Sarah Palin carries diva vote

I am ready for this election to be over. Nobody has anything new to say. All we’re doing now is waiting for gaffes and gotchas -- or, god forbid, snipers.

Dignity is in short supply. Fear is plentiful. Ideas are old. Candidates are tired. Voters are tired.

Thanks to early voting and absentee voting, more Americans have voted than ever before. That volume muffles last-minute claims/counter-claims. Polls have hardened. But the campaigns keep slinging vitriol like it really matters.

It’s still the economy.

The primaries run too long; the general election too short. We need less time picking the party favorites and more time vetting the principle candidates. Election reform.

I have never seen a campaign so filled with rancor, lies, and nasty robo calls. The right has demonized the left. And the left has ridiculed the right.

I’m worn out. I don’t even want to hear my candidates speak anymore. And I sure as hell don’t want to hear theirs.

Here’s where I fall off my high horse. I race for the mute button every time I hear the shrill, sarcastic voice of the She-Bush. That woman single-handedly has kept the $150,000 wardrobe issue alive for a full week. Sarah Palin has certainly locked up the Diva vote. I'm weary even of her hotness. Substance, not merely style.

What was McCain thinking?


The South Plainsman said...

Sarah has my vote.

Have any of you looked at the Chicago DSA, of which Obama was a member? I assume he believed in the mission of the organization he joined and supported.

It is:

"Our mission is to establish democratic socialism as a political force in the United States and around the world by training and mobilizing socialist activists to participate in a vibrant and diverse socialist organization at both the local and the national level. DSA both educates the public about democratic socialist values and policies and builds progressive coalitions to win victories that move the U.S. and the world toward social democracy. In the near term, democratic socialists struggle for reforms that shift power and resources away from corporate elites and put them in the hands of ordinary citizens. In the long term, democratic socialists fight for a world in which all people share equally in the governing of the economic, political and cultural institutions and relationships that shape their lives."


Hmmmmmm. My thought is that if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, the extreme likelihood is that its a duck. What say you?

George Phenix said...


Todd Palin was/is a member of the Alaskan group that wants to pull Alaska out of the United States.

Secessionists. Enemies of the state.

Sarah is sleeping with the enemy. And that sounds like duck.

Ken Martin said...

Well, regarding the South Plainsman's comments, have the corporate elites done anything for you lately? Every kind of giant insurance and financial institution has wreaked worldwide havoc on the global economy. Yesterday's news on NPR says the Big Three U.S. automakers are now asking for a bailout, too.

We have lived for far too long in a country run *by* the rich, *for* the rich. Although there are notable exceptions, we have the best lawmakers money can buy. The very *public servants* who are supposed to be representing voters mostly seem to represent the moneyed interests that put them in office with gigantic contributions, legal and otherwise.

So put me down for putting more power in the hands of the people who work every day and get shafted everyday, whether it be from outsourcing their jobs to slave labor markets elsewhere or from having to bear the cost of these bailouts for generations.

Quite aside from all the flaws that John McCain personally has, jumping from one stance to another daily like he's playing hopscotch instead of running for president, his unforgivable mistake was picking Sarah Palin for VP. He's old. He isn't likely to survive even one term, and Palin is *truly* frightening. Read the Newsweek article about the church she devoutly attends and which seems to believe we are living in the end times and that Armageddon is near. Give her the power to loose the nukes? Not on your life!

The South Plainsman said...

Poor little Sarah. What a threat she must be to liberals.

Anonymous said...

What hole did the south plainsman crawl out of? Oh that's right, the same one that Sarah and her extremist, anti-A-merr-ee-ka crowd came from.

I cannot wait for Carl Rove to finally do in the GOP! How about they all get together with their Bibles and guns and live in the woods together deep inside Alabama????????

JohnSBoles said...

I don't think the South Plainsman crawled out of the hole from which Sarah Palin came. I believe he had already been sucked into the hole created by the puppetmaster Rovecheney. Palin has proven to be a little too mavericky even for them.

Hard for me to believe Lubbock has become such a deadzone. At least I have memories of dates to Dr. Zhivago at the Winchester and Dr. Strangelove at the Lindsey. I don't miss the sandstorms.

Anonymous said...

From what I have read on this blog, this may be a little deep for many folks, but to the south plainsman, your horns are going down Saturday night, and I plan to be there to watch the bar-b-q take place. I just hope that "Evil Sarah" does not mess up the party.

The South Plainsman said...

I think that it is funny, but typical of liberals, to attack the messenger or someone else and not refute the message.

I posted a quite genuine comment that if read carefully, and followed up at the website referenced, establishes that Obama is a socialist.

Not a single person has come forward to refute the premise. And, of course, the premise is accurate. We are about to have the first socialist President in history, and you folks are proud of it.

JR, it is going to a hot time in Lubbock this weekend. The weather should be good, and the stocks at the liquor stores have been about bought out. Everything will be ready for the big game.

The Longhorns will be ready as well.

JohnSBoles said...

South Plainsman

I did read a great deal at the DSA site via the link you provided. Did you see the several paragraphs by Bob Roman regarding Obama's link or lack thereof to the DSA? Mr. Roman contends that if Obama admits to membership then they may be owed several years of membership dues.

Here's the thing. So what. I have not met Obama. I do not know him personally. I cannot "refute the message" that Obama is a socialist. I can say with certainty that his actions, via an affirmative vote, and those of many others, including John McCain, with regards to the economic bailout smacks of socialism. Frankly, for myself, a little socialism as opposed to the Fascism and Jingoism of the last eight years might be a breath of fresh air.

Then in four or eight years we will all be talking about that flavor of the month.

JohnSBoles said...

That should have read "...we will all be talking about the flavor of that month."

Anonymous said...


SP and I have been friends for over a half century as have George and I. I side with SP on just about everything. Maybe a little socialism would be a breth of fresh air??? What??? If you've read your history books going to whatever school in Lubbock you went to,guess what?? Marx started with a little socialism too.
es I went to the Winchester and saw Dr.Zhivago.
What's puzzling is how you and George lived in Lubbock and came away with such liberal views.
None of you have half the brains that SP has or you would not think a little socialism is OK.
It's like the clamor to reenact the fairness doctrine,Liberals want it because their radio talk shows have ended in failure.---Goose

The South Plainsman said...

Relax, Goose. Facts are not of interest to liberals, just "feelings."

Obama makes them feel good. And by always voting Democratic, they don't even have to think for themselves. LOL

The South Plainsman said...

Oh, and by the way, Johnsboles, did you come across this at the site?

"Barack Obama observed that Martin Luther King's March on Washington in the 1960s wasn't simply about civil rights but demanded jobs as well. Now the issue is again coming to the front, but he wished the issue was on the Democratic agenda not just on Buchanan's.

One of the themes that has emerged in Barack Obama's campaign is "what does it take to create productive communities", not just consumptive communities. It is an issue that joins some of the best instincts of the conservatives with the better instincts of the left. He felt the state government has three constructive roles to play.

The first is "human capital development". By this he meant public education, welfare reform, and a "workforce preparation strategy". Public education requires equality in funding. It's not that money is the only solution to public education's problems but it's a start toward a solution. The current proposals for welfare reform are intended to eliminate welfare but it's also true that the status quo is not tenable. A true welfare system would provide for medical care, child care and job training. While Barack Obama did not use this term, it sounded very much like the "social wage" approach used by many social democratic labor parties. By "workforce preparation strategy", Barack Obama simply meant a coordinated, purposeful program of job training instead of the ad hoc, fragmented approach used by the State of Illinois today.

The state government can also play a role in redistribution, the allocation of wages and jobs. As Barack Obama noted, when someone gets paid $10 million to eliminate 4,000 jobs, the voters in his district know this is an issue of power not economics. The government can use as tools labor law reform, public works and contracts."

Denial does not become you guys.

George Phenix said...

Gov.Sarah Palin said:

"And Alaska - we're set up, unlike other states in the union, where it's collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we share in the wealth when the development of these resources occurs."

The She-Bush is a fraud who conveniently forgets her own description of her own style of government -- socialism.

JohnSBoles said...

South Plainsman

Yes, your Honor, I did see that. Let me say here that I have the greatest admiration for anyone who serves in our courts. Thank you.

When I read the portion of the site included in the last link that you provided I did not find a red under the bed. What I found was a candidate up for election on a panel sponsored by several groups including the DSA. It was not surprising to me that Obama embraced a good idea that Pat Buchanan used as a talking point in his run for the Presidency. What is it about the creation of jobs that is frightening when the left suggests it? How is it less frightening when McCain suggests it?

The South Plainsman said...

Johnnsboles, check what two party labels Obama was running under in 1996.

Face it. The guy is a socialist.

Ollie Gravis said...

South P. Take a nap under the troll bridge. Sarah P is living somewhere in dinosaur land and can't see what is going on in the 21st Century any more than she can see what's happening in Russia from her "who hell paid for that" home.

Socialism? Ain't the military health care socialistic? Wanna get rid of socialism start there. Now, understand, I was raised an army brat as a Warrant Officer 4's son and I served four years in the military back in the 60s so I certain to a fraction that the military deserves everything they can get, just like the bankers and junk bond salesmen don't deserve squat. But if you're going to go all purity and light, then go whole hog or give it a rest.

But if you need to keep harpin' between now and election day and that socialism talkin' point quits working for you, try that "he is a muslim" routine. It's a helluva lot scarier. Besides, most folks don't give a tinker's damn whether their health care is socialist or a basic human right, just as long they can keep a roof over their heads while medical bills come raining down on them like, well... medical bills raining down on them. A harder rain may never fall.

George had it right from the get-go. We're wore plumb down to the nub on this here election. Ain't no one changing no body's mind from here on out.

Like that's gonna happen...

JohnSBoles said...

South Plainsman

Is this what you mean by two parties?

"The New Party's modus operandi included the political strategy of "electoral fusion," where it would nominate, for various political offices, candidates from other parties (usually Democrats), thereby enabling each of those candidates to occupy more than one ballot line in the voting booth. By so doing, the New Party often was able to influence candidates' platforms. (Fusion of this type is permitted in seven states -- Connecticut, Delaware, Idaho, Mississippi, New York, South Carolina, and Vermont -- but is common only in New York.)

Though Illinois was not one of the states that permitted electoral fusion, in 1995 Barack Obama nonetheless sought the New Party's endorsement for his 1996 state senate run. He was successful in obtaining that endorsement, and he used a number of New Party volunteers as campaign workers."
copied from:


Obama ran as a Democrat. Does the author of the paragraphs above know that Obama sought the New Party endorsement? No. He only imagines it to be true.

Do I think Obama is a socialist? No. Do I think some of his ideas fit within a definition of socialism? Yes. Do I think all of his ideas fit within a definition of socialism? No.

If you ask me these same questions of John McCain my answers will be identical.

Now. Do I think Obama is more socialist than objectivist. Yes. Do I think John McCain is more objectivist than socialist. Yes. It is for me a vote against objectivism while for you it may be a vote against socialism.

In any case it is for both of us all about our perception of the beliefs of individuals we don't really know on a personal level.

The South Plainsman said...

Well, I'm glad to see someone did a little research. Obama did seek and accept the New Party nomination. And he is a socialist.

I really do not expect to change anybody's mind about the election. I have already voted. But I just wanted to make sure you folks understand what you are voting for.


Ollie Gravis said...

Thanks soooo much SP. How would "you folks" -- that being us socialist commie liberal democrats -- ever know the truth without your perfect insight and god-like intelligence? Reckon next time I have to ponder anything I'll give you a call. After all none of us have any book learning like you. We don't know research from nothing. Glad you voted for Sarah. Good research there.

Jeff Hebert said...

True ideologues have The Truth. And The Truth cannot be swayed by facts, or nuance, or honesty. Only they have it, you can't get it, and everything they see or hear or read or know reconfirms The Truth.

People have brought to the Republican Party the same brand of devout faith that is normally reserved for religion. They have abandoned the core conservative principles of realism, skepticism, and doubt for a quasi-religious devotion to the Great Leader that has elevated loyalty far, far above competence.

You're right, SP, Sarah Palin does frighten me. She's the ultimate culmination of the "Heckuva Job, Brownie" spirit so well embodied by the "We make our own reality" comment from the Bush Administration. Your party in this election has deliberately chosen to abandon competence as a core value in favor of blind, vituperative hate of The Other, and slapping any sort of handy emotion-charged label you can find to scare people into voting with you is fair game. Marxist, socialist, communist, terrorist, Muslim, they've all been gleefully bandied about without the slightest concern for reality.

I believe that what we're going to be left with in the Republican Party for the next ten years is the worst of the worst, the most die-hard Kool-Aid drinkers, glorying in their hatred and suckling on their own bile until, hopefully, one day the last stagnant rump is ejected and they can return to something sane and healthy.

There is a need in this country for multiple parties, for loyal opposition who can hold the powerful in check. Once upon a time we had a Republican Party based on true conservative principles, but that party, sadly, has gone missing. I hope for our country's sake they are found sooner rather than later, because this McCain-Palin-Rove unholy triumvirate is seriously bad mojo.

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